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[sabbie]

I am getting really fed up with known scammers so i have decided to make a history of each them.  people really need to know who they are dealing with. 

This will be the first,  its the history of latinptc, lalo, anmlwalkr, ptcqueen, maderite or whatever name the scammer chooses to use next. its based on memory and information freely available on the www.

please feel free to agree, disagree,  comment or add info.
 

maderite as he calls himself lately has the gift of the gab. he can talk anyone into anything but he has major problem with telling the truth.

lola will tell you he owns sites, he will tell you one of his many family members owns them or he will even tell you he doesnt own them but somebody else uses his paypal.  he is also a liar, all these sites either had his name on the whois or on the paypal. 

lets take a 'short' look at his history.....

in 2007 he launched latinptc networks.  he did make some payouts but added one site after the other to the network.  Sites are usually added to generate new income to make payouts on older sites.  Then he raised the payouts so very few people were being paid.

when latinptc network sites were not making him enough they were sold to jeffrey johnson, scammer who didnt pay anybody. 
jj later sold them to the patriotgroup
http://www.clickosaur.us 
http://www.latinbux.com
http://www.latinptc.com
http://www.advertsr.us
http://www.fantasyptc.com
http://www.paidclickworld.com
http://www.hotrodclicks.com
http://www.southernclicks.com
http://www.mexclicks.com
http://www.clickmonster.info
http://www.sincityptc.com

in 2008 he launched honestbux and busyclicks.  he did great with them because he was able to promote them on ptctalk.   the mods got paid, a few members got paid.  any negative posts about honestbux were always locked or deleted.
http://getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=516190&hl=latinptc

then honestbux was 'hacked' (sorry i don't believe most of the hacker stories)
Silly admin had no backups,  a lot of members invested a lot money into honestbux.  they complained to paypal.  Lola lost his paypal so he opened another, and another, and another. 
members could still make purchases but without a 'backup'  lola couldnt make payouts. again a lot of his members were scammed.
even when his paypal was 'unfrozen' member were still not paid.

so what does any 'honest'  admin do in that case?? of course,  he keeps the money and changes the sites to adonly,  his other site busyclicks was also changed from a paying site to an adonly. nobody got paid.
then he sold them and he was is no longer responsible for them being scam.
  
http://www.honestbux.com
http://www.busyclicks.info

Lola tells us he was fined by paypal for a Tos violation.  Each fine amounted to $2500.
Seems to me an amount anyone would remember but Lola has a problem with his memory.  On gptboycott he tells us he was fined a total of $7500. On beenpaid the fine was only $5000.  i seriously doubt he ever was fined.

After paypal told us they would not reopen the account and on all 3 accounts we were fined $2500 each thats a total of $7500 which obliterated almost all the funds in that account .

http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18309&highlight=paypal&page=2

in the end we had to convert honestbux to an ads only site due to problems with paypal and alertpay you cant pay users if you cant recieve income it took us almost 6 months to get paypal sorted with a security deposit and then they leveled us with the maximum fine for tos violation which was 2500 for each account.
paypal fines 5000

http://www.beenpaid.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=posting&mode=quote&p=43599


i just have to add one of lalos quotes here, its one of the few times he really was telling the truth

to be honest only a select few sites are truly having issues wityh paypal and others are capitolizing on the paypal scare to take the money and run or at least thats my opinion.....

http://getpaidforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=507742&hl=

These sites were were supposedly owned by leslie aleen aka ptcqueen.  anmlwalkr used the admin@earnercenter.info email on ptctalk.  he says he was only helping the admin.  again, i don't believe him.

http://www.easyearner.info
http://www.clickershaven.info
http://www.earnerscenter.info


lalo decided to leave the ptc 'business' this usually just means he will change name

well its all ok im leaving the business as my real world job gives me less and less time to to handle hosting design and installs

retirement didnt last long,  next launched were megacashclicks and 4 shares sites,  they launched, paid a few people, never paid again.  a lot of members were scammed.

supposedly  they were owned by leslie aleen aka ptcqueen.
the whois tells us leslie aleen lives in  harlingen, Texas 78550  United States
the emails used on the whois is debs_son3@yahoo.com or just plain anmlwalkr@yahoo.com

lalo has a mother,  yes even scammers have one 
her name is deborah and she lives in harlingen, Texas, i guess lola is her number 3 son. 

lalo told everyone mommy deb has glaucoma, there is no way she could run a ptc network when she can't even see the screen.  he told everybody she couldnt have the operation she needed because he used the money on honestbux
http://www.myspace.com/anmlwalkrs_mom
(@lola, don't bother to remove i got the screenshots and will post them if necessary)

one of the paypal accounts used on the shares sites is registered to acapulcotriste@yahoo.com
this is the same paypal lalo used on honestbux.  it was supposedly frozen
screenshot of it here: http://www.talkptc.com/index.php/topic,4689.0.html

http://megacashclicks.net leslie aleen, sharenetworks
http://www.paydayptc.com leslie aleen, sharenetworks
http://www. sharethebux.com  debs_son3@yahoo.com
http://www.earn50.com debs_son3@yahoo.com
http://www.earningsecrets.com  anmlwalkr@yahoo.com
http://www.talkptc.com/index.php/topic,5290.msg25361.html#msg25361
http://www.talkptc.com/index.php/topic,2137.0.html

megacashclicks is parked but still registered to leslie aleen,  the whois shows aurorabux as the last server it was on.  aurorabux server belongs to gptnetworks scam
the other sites were transferred to jeffrey johnson 

funny how scammers stick together and just take over each others scams whenever it gets too hot under their feet.


so now lalo needs some new scams.  ptctalk is gone but he found a new forum to promote them.
fresh noobs willing to trust and invest in his scams
be careful with his sites, he will pay a few for a while,  then he will raise payout,  change to adonly and sell them.

http://www.clickerscoop.info

http://www.trafficsaur.us

http://www.gptclub.com

http://www.buxbunny.com

http://www.ptcshare.com

http://www.moneytreeptr.com

Don't just take my word for it.   a long time ago willj/northowl had a small honest streak, he used to be able to tell the truth

As for Lalo, you shouldn't be surprised. Doesn't take an expert to see his business plan(or lack of) with his sites.

http://www.talkptc.com/index.php/topic,1762.0.html

now he apologizes to scammers for putting their site in the suspect sites boards,  notice how he mentions it will be stable and paying.   more mods being paid,  noobs being pulled into scams

I got the Talkptc nuts breathing down my neck, sorry John. Once its stable and paying im sure we can move it out.

i have to be honest.  i don't see many complaints about his hosting or script business.  he says he is responsible for over 400 sites with maderite on them.
his name is on the whois.    To me that just means 400 sites i refuse to join.  If his name is on the whois there is no way to tell who actually owns them.
any or all of them could be his and members are going to get scammed again.

i suggest every stay away from his sites or least not invest in any of them


good luck 

[sabbie]

hmmm so i can be expecting a email from you like i did the idiots from that other forum asking for money or theyre gonna ruin my reputation and ddestrot my paypal accounts agan

LOL thanks for reading lola    that statement would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
you never paid me on your site so why on earth would i expect you to pay now 

i can understand posting a warning about a site because it is openbed by someone with a tainted past but to out and out call a site of theyres scam before it even opens or email every site they find with the name on it and threaten to list them scam because they host with someone or because they bought theyre script from someone thats ridicoulous and i have several of our owners and clients pm me about this and email me about this.

ill name a list talkptc list they place sites on list just for hosting with maderite.
im sure they will come up with some bs to say its not so but search the forum and you will see.

take some reading lessons 

this thread is all about warning people about YOU!!!
your a scammer and every site YOU own and run belongs on the scam list.

if the owners of those 400 sites with your name on the whois are paying you won't find them on the scam list.
Feel free to post some of those 'emails sent to owners' 

i can understand posting a warning about a site because it is openbed by someone with a tainted past

in reality they cause the problem of the site failing by posting blatant lies!

at least this forum has a owner and admin who has ran sites knows that mistakes can be made easily and just because someone in the past made a mistake doesnt necessarily mean they will in the future

Tainted past    hahahahahahahahahaha
take another look at the list above 

yup i'm responsible for you being a scammer more hahahahahahahahaha

and yes i'm sure willj/northowl understands exactly where your coming from 


so let me repeat this,  try to concentrate lola 
sites not owned and run by maderite are not added to the scam list unless the true owner does something to deserve it 
i personally refuse to join any of them unless i am 200% sure they are not owned and run by lola


edit: WE have nothing to hide, lets add a link to the other half of this conversation 
http://www.earnmoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,28213.msg277927.html#msg277927

[PapaiMark]

I read there some posts.
They are worried only with their loses. No matter the members.
They are worried.
I feel fear in their words.

[carvalho20]

i can understand posting a warning about a site because it is openbed by someone with a tainted past

in reality they cause the problem of the site failing by posting blatant lies!

at least this forum has a owner and admin who has ran sites knows that mistakes can be made easily and just because someone in the past made a mistake doesnt necessarily mean they will in the future

Thanks, maderite, you've given us another reason to NOT join sites owned by you and your "Super Hyper Master Mega Ultra Supreme Fantastic Amazing Phenomenal Secret Brotherhood Of Evil":

"We scammers, are always right, whatever the occasion. F*ck the rest. After all, we're the bad guys, aren't we ?"

[sabbie]

:clap:wow someone that did theyre home work wayyyyyy to go

FINALLY!!!!  the truth,  yes i do know what i am talking about, when it comes to scammers, i do my homework

id have given the other 59 just to see sabbie own a site see if she could walk the walk since she talks the talk...

Got your wish, technically i owned a ptc site for the last 3 weeks PAY UP!!!!

:clap:wow someone that did theyre home work wayyyyyy to go we have a winnner :boogie:
contact me via pm to get your site set up for you
yaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy way to go.

http://www.earnmoneyspace.com/forum/index.php/topic,29829.msg292152.html#msg292152
thanks    you have my email,  please send me the files,  we could raffle it off to some lucky winner 


lol wonder if i'm getting banned from ems 

[redgirl1423]

Wow, it is a shame how many scammers are on the net but i have noticed a pattern to them, they pay at first, are very active in the forum then slowly over time you see excuses pop up as to why things are not getting fixed, why they are not paying on time, some have some dooseys too, ive heard from one that dos attacks[ old news, over used]got sick, left town due to emergency, hackers, oh, i love this one.lol. house got shot up by deranged member,LMAO! seems like that one would have hit the paper:} seems like out of every 10 ptc's maybe one is legit.

[sabbie]

:clap:wow someone that did theyre home work wayyyyyy to go we have a winnner :boogie:
contact me via pm to get your site set up for you
yaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy way to go.

thanks    you have my email,  please send me the files,  we could raffle it off to some lucky winner  

i was stunned    i did contact maderite and i asked him to give the script i won to another ptc owner,  he did, the script found a good home    

thank you for that,  LALO 

he also offered me a lifetime upgrade and refs on his new site gptclub as a compensation for honestbux,  i thanked him and refused  

[sabbie]

lola you are sooooo wrong, 
you don't have the longest thread yet,  but keep trying,  you will get there eventually 

a few days ago you said  'i will never own another site unless i get really bored'
i guess you got bored really fast 

http://clickersmafia.com,   2 year old domain, now on buxhost script 

so what does it say about the quality of a maderite script when the owner of that script chooses to use a buxhost?

looks to me like your advising people to stay away from maderite scripts 

or is it just that its more profitable to scam with a buxhost??

[nitinkumar]

lola you are sooooo wrong, 
you don't have the longest thread yet,  but keep trying,  you will get there eventually 

a few days ago you said  'i will never own another site unless i get really bored'
i guess you got bored really fast 

http://clickersmafia.com,   2 year old domain, now on buxhost script 

so what does it say about the quality of a maderite script when the owner of that script chooses to use a buxhost?

looks to me like your advising people to stay away from maderite scripts 

or is it just that its more profitable to scam with a buxhost??

My more doubts about JJ and maderite.

A thread created by JJ to show that buxhost is good script. JJ give clixncash and other site to maderite. Paypal account got limited. clixncash site is closed without paying anyone. I wonder how much paypal account they have.

[sabbie]

lola had at least 5 frozen when he scammed everyone on honestbux,  i have no idea why they were frozen 
http://www.talkptc.com/index.php?topic=1092.msg7462#msg7462

i am sure between the 2 of them they have at least 20