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[JohnnyBlack]

screw siklon and ban him from this forum now please aurora, and willj you should reconsider hosting for this kid and letting him mod for you, he has already scammed people basicly by turning some of his sites into ad only sites, hes been up to plenty of shady stuff

hes just going to make u look bad will. lol  willj we dont need kids like him running around starting all these damn sites and selling them to his friends.

As always Stalky is right.
And what about this instant payments crap he's advertising. Will he be selling crapload of bots cause with these rates there is no way he can support instant cashout. $0.01 ads value 100% downline eranings, $19 for 1000 hits 
Willj you should put some sense in him I don't think he understands that's not gonna work for him. Or maybe he does understand and just trying to copy the Scammers from Neobux.

[TechM]

Who is this spam mod I hear about?

[TechM]

Well the ad's looked the same as Will's, they had his referral links, it was on his server, so I assumed it was his. I assumed it was his because all the facts pointed to him. Sorry will.

[JohnnyBlack]

Who is this spam mod I hear about?

Some kid that calls himself alwayskrunk. He's one hell of a spammer and not too smart if you ask me. He's a mod on ptctalk and on most of the bux Forums around. All he can do is promote any new bux around, say hi,congrats, tell people to wait. Also he was "co-owner" on some crappy bux called Quick bux but it didn't take him more than 1-2 weeks to resign from his position.

[mjomha]

oh that guy ya i see everywhere in all ptc forums doesnt that guy have a real life i mean even a 14 year old must have a life school or something, i truly feel sorry for that guy

[JohnnyBlack]

oh that guy ya i see everywhere in all ptc forums doesnt that guy have a real life i mean even a 14 year old must have a life school or something, i truly feel sorry for that guy

Well I think he said he was 18   
They way he looks he is probably unemployed bum 

[NorthOwl]

screw siklon and ban him from this forum now please aurora, and willj you should reconsider hosting for this kid and letting him mod for you, he has already scammed people basicly by turning some of his sites into ad only sites, hes been up to plenty of shady stuff

hes just going to make u look bad will. lol  willj we dont need kids like him running around starting all these damn sites and selling them to his friends.

Actually the person I work with is 19 and his name is Dennis, I have verified his age and identity. He was using his friend Siklons account on PTC talk but he is not Siklon.

The only site he ever had before this was UtopiaBux which he sold and was turned into an Ad Only or something.

Anyways if you do not agree with him then do not join his new site.

All I know is he is 19 and he has hired a real programmer to code the instant payout stuff among other things, looks to me like he is trying, we well see though.

I'm not going to be like other admins and say "This person is trustworthy" because the only person I can guarantee is myself.

[TechM]

Very smart will. You don't want that same BS with Fox Cash/xClix admin promoting a mod on his sites as a trustworthy thing. I am at least glad the new dude is not underage. 

[sabbie]

I'm not going to be like other admins and say "This person is trustworthy

i am very pleased to hear you say that

btw where is siklon/dennis. still cant login? i would really be interested to see his reply

i will retract the post i made about his age, the post at ptctalk has 'disappeared' so i cant prove it and i try not to post anything i cant prove

He was using his friend Siklons account on PTC talk but he is not Siklon.

dennisvdb already had his own account on ptctalk so why would he be using siklons account he made 7 posts on ptctalk, 3 of them have disappeared

his name is Dennis, He was using his friend Siklons account on PTC talk but he is not Siklon.

i asked the admin on buxout:

siklon i know your admin  is this your site???

Yes I'm the owner, my name is Dennis

http://www.buxout.com/smf/index.php?topic=6.msg218

dennis owns buxout but dennis is not siklon?
i know thats not true because i compared the email he uses on buxout to siklons email on ptctalk.  they are exactly the same    ss available if that should happen to change
http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1057
http://www.buxout.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1

The only site he ever had before this was UtopiaBux which he sold and was turned into an Ad Only or something.

utopiabux was not his only site, thats not true either

utopiabux came back with a new domain but still had the same db

http://lithiumbux.com
Spread the news

eurovisits was a completely new site

It's owned by a friend of mine who sold Utopiabux, (Dennis vdb)
eurovisits.org

and what about this one?  it has the same email as siklon on ptctalk and admin 'dennis' on buxout??
t also happens to have eurovisit as a company name??
and its even on the earn3 server??

Domain Name:GRABVID.ORG
Created On:15-Feb-2008 21:09:24 UTC
Last Updated On:19-Apr-2008 21:57:52 UTC
Expiration Date:15-Feb-2009 21:09:24 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:0ED3DE1B6BA4249F
Registrant Name:smet karab
Registrant Organization:eurovisits
Registrant Street1:nieuwstraat 45
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:limburg
Registrant State/Province:limburg
Registrant Postal Code:4890
Registrant Country:BE
Registrant Phone:+32.3218228
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:smurof2@gmail.com

all this says nothing about buxout but i signed up on buxout because the ad said owned by earn3.
after checking the owner i have to say i do prefer trustworthy, please delete my account

[NorthOwl]

Ya Siklon and Dennis are different people, I dunno why Dennis was using Siklons account, stupid Dennis, it makes things very confusing....lol

If your not sure about him or Buxout then don't sign up or edit the account you already have to fake info.

He also Admin of Earn3 and Extra10 though, he has done a good job working with me on those (when he actually works lol)

He tried to come here to this forum but forgot his password, tried to make a new account and the Admin of this forum deleted it, I dunno ask him on his buxout forum..lol

Anyways if your unsure about Buxout and its Admin all I can suggest is don't participate in it, I have already explained I am _not_ an Admin.

[jr1989]

i think thats simple and understandable. 

[Basher11]

Domain Name:GRABVID.ORG
Created On:15-Feb-2008 21:09:24 UTC
Last Updated On:19-Apr-2008 21:57:52 UTC
Expiration Date:15-Feb-2009 21:09:24 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:0ED3DE1B6BA4249F
Registrant Name:smet karab
Registrant Organization:eurovisits
Registrant Street1:nieuwstraat 45
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:limburg
Registrant State/Province:limburg
Registrant Postal Code:4890
Registrant Country:BE
Registrant Phone:+32.3218228
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:smurof2@gmail.com

That adress information is fake. There is no City called 'Limburg' in Belgium, there is no Nieuwstraat 45 either and the phone number is fake too.. lol

[sabbie]

quote author=Basher11 link=topic=2759.msg15476#msg15476 date=1217844491]

Domain Name:GRABVID.ORG
Registrant Email:smurof2@gmail.com

That adress information is fake. There is no City called 'Limburg' in Belgium, there is no Nieuwstraat 45 either and the phone number is fake too.. lol
[/quote]

i never for a moment thought the address is real
in this case i added the whois to prove the prove that dennis/siklon did own more than just utopiabux, he also owns/owned eurovisits and grabvid.  the email proves that, its the same on sikons ptctalk account and it was on his buxout admin account

dennis owns buxout but dennis is not siklon?
i know thats not true because i compared the email he uses on buxout to siklons email on ptctalk.  they are exactly the same    ss available if that should happen to change
http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1057
http://www.buxout.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=1

it changed   so as promised:






they still look the same to me, so why deny

[NorthOwl]

they still look the same to me, so why deny

Ya Dennis took over Siklon's ptctalk account, they are buddies or whatever.

All I know is the person who I work with and owns Buxout is named Dennis and just turned 20. Ive seen is Identification and everything.

If you want any more info from him I guess just contact him.

[clancy2]

it changed   so as promised:

Looks like he has something to hide. Lots of red flags here. You should get it off your server before he makes you look bad.